29 Jan, 2010
2010-1-29 1:16:57 PM UTC
Who here knows a lot about Mythlore? Or who I can talk to about it?
More specifically, I want to:
* find out how close these two are in terms of content:
o "Christensen, Bonniejean. "Tolkien's Creative Technique:
Beowulf and The Hobbit." Mythlore 15 (Spring 1989): 4-10.
o Christensen, Bonniejean. "Beowulf and The Hobbit: Elegy into
Fantasy in J. R. R. Tolkien's Creative Technique."
Dissertation, University of Southern California, 1969. DAI
30 (1970): 4401-02A.
* get a copy of the former (or, indeed, the latter!)
Any advice, help etc will be much appreciated!
Thanks
- wellinghall
29 Jan, 2010
2010-1-29 5:57:43 PM UTC
I will forward your request to the Mythsoc mailing list to see if anyone can help with the comparison. The back issue of Mythlore is available from the back issues website here:
http://www.mythsoc.org/mythlore/history/That particular issue is $3.50 plus shipping. If you need help ordering (don't like Paypal or whatnot) let me know and I can help out.
Probably the same article appears in Orcrist #7 (1972-73). I don't have a copy of that issue of Orcrist right now, unfortunately. A citation refers to the Orcrist article as her dissertation "epitomized in" the Orcrist article, so it is probably rewritten for a wider audience. Sorry for the long link! (
http://books.google.com/books?id=FCaM ... e%20Technique%22&f=false)Tangentially related, I found the following paper online that refers to the one you are looking for (good further reading maybe):
http://faculty.uca.edu/jona/second/hobbeow.htm
29 Jan, 2010
2010-1-29 6:24:26 PM UTC
That's great - thanks, Jeremy.
- wellinghall
29 Jan, 2010
2010-1-29 7:36:39 PM UTC
John Rateliff responded:
Unfortunately, this issue of MYTHLORE falls among those I still have inaccessibly boxed away. But if this person is looking for a copy, he needs to be warned that this issue is NOT #15 but part of VOLUME 15. The issue he's looking for would be somewhere around #56.
I do have a copy of the dissertation, though in rather battered condition, and so could provide a copy of specific pages or passages if he can't find one for himself; I believe Marquette and probably Wheaton have copies as well. And since the dissertation was for a degree granted at the University of Southern California, there shd be a copy on file there as well.
At least one important excerpt from this dissertation has been published as an essay: "Gollum's Character Transformation in The Hobbit", which lays out the changes between the first and second editions of the Gollum-scene in parallel columns. It appears in Lobdell's A TOLKIEN COMPASS (both the original 1975 edition and the truncated 2003 re-issue).
--John R.
I do see Marquette has it listed in their archives. I can dig into the USC more if that will help. I will check my Mythlore Index tonight as well to see what issue the article appears in.
29 Jan, 2010
2010-1-29 7:40:31 PM UTC
Without checking the full index for the exact issue of the article, if your citation is correct (Volume 15, Spring 1989) then you want Issue #57 (15:3), also $3.50 as a back issue.
http://www.mythsoc.org/mythlore/history/
30 Jan, 2010
2010-1-30 9:58:01 AM UTC
Thanks again, Jeremy.
- wellinghall
30 Jan, 2010
2010-1-30 11:03:56 PM UTC
The index confirms it is in issue #57, pp. 4-10. From the Index summary p. 21 (still haven't seen the full article):
Asserts that "The Hobbit, differing greatly in tone, is nonetheless a retelling of the incidents that comprise the plot and the digressions in both parts of Beowulf."
However, his retelling is from a Christian point of view.
The dissertation is more than 200 pp. long. I sent you a separate email on the dissertation, which is obtainable through ProQuest with a subscription.
31 Jan, 2010
2010-1-31 9:56:10 AM UTC
That's great - many thanks, Jeremy.
- wellinghall