Looking for the poem "Knocking at the Door" by Tolkien

If you have the Oxford Magazine, please send me the text here

The text of the poem of course is under copyright and should not be openly posted to the web without permission.

Wayne & Christina

Findegil wrote:

If you have the Oxford Magazine, please send me the text here

The text of the poem of course is under copyright and should not be openly posted to the web without permission.

Wayne & Christina

This is correct, please can I ask that people do not request items that are under copyright.

If you unsure then please ask about the copyright status before posting.

That's why I provided my contact email. It is not my intention to hurt copyright.

I am doing a research on Tolkien's poems. And this poem is very important for my analysis. So I ask if anyone has access please let me know.

I am by no means an expert on copyright (far from it, I'd say), but I have tried to understand — or at least read — the Danish copyright law, which is what normally applies to myself.

Under that law, I can legally make an analogue copy of a work that I have legal access to, e.g. photocopy parts of a book, for my own private use. Thus, even if I had a copy of the relevant issue of The Oxford Magazine, I would not, as I understand it, be allowed to create a copy for you.

On the other hand it is my impression (and I emphasize that this is an impression only) that there is a long tradition in academic / scholarly circles of helping others with photocopies of hard-to-get works. If this impression is correct, there might be some provisions for limited copies for research purposes, though I don't know these (another possibility is of course that it is instead a silent agreement by which everybody wink at a practice which, though not entirely legal, still benefits everybody).

Not very helpful, I'm afraid, but then I am in any case not in a position to help you with the poem, since I don't have any copy of it myself.

Here is a good resource from the US Copyright Office talking about Fair Use and Educators/teachers/libraries and making copies. It does not try to call out what is right or wrong, only explain the laws as they currently stand and what implications that may have for teachers, etc.

http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ21.pdf

My reading of it is that there are definitely circumstances (like the request make at the start of this thread) where making a copy for individual study is considered acceptable. Without having the knowledge to hold an informed legal opinion one way or another myself, I can say that I have provided photocopies of rare materials to others when there is really no other method for them to purchase something they need for their studies.

With that in mind, though, I will definitely remove any copyrighted materials from TCG (forums, Guide wiki, or elsewhere) as there is a major difference between making a hard copy for personal study purposes and publishing something online.

You'd better get that YouTube clip of A Film Portrait (that you posted in another thread) taken down then! (--thanks for letting me watch it first though! )

BH

That's a good point, Khamûl.

I have been fairly rigorous on notifying the estate/HC about online infringements for written materials, but didn't even blink on the video. Different rights holders, but they should have the opportunity to send the takedown notice to YouTube if they aren't already aware.

Generally speaking, those engaged in academic research contact their library rather than asking folk to post copyrighted material on the net. I did.